SYSTEMIC PATTERNS of Child Snatching and Forced Adoptions in the UK – a first draft for the EU Petitions Committee


Systemic Aspects for the Petitions Committee of the EU Parliament
on 19 March 2014


I am a retired systems analyst who used to diagnose software at CERN in Geneva. Since 2004 I have been an independent web publisher and was given the story of ‘Baby Harley’ for Victims Unite[1] but received a ‘gag’ by Swansea Council in February 2011. Based on my experience with fraudulent bankruptcies, I recognised the falsificiation of official documents. A ‘gagging order’ was repeated by Doncaster Council when I published a website for Vicky Haigh, the first gag removed by John Hemming MP[2] in Parliament. The third gagging order came from Haringey Council who are responsible for the worst of all child snatching cases[3] – a Nigerian family with seven children – imprisoned for seven years while the youngest children are to be adopted and five kept in permanent ‘care’.

Individually, I built websites for

  1. English Vicky Haigh – whose daughter was molested by her ex-partner and given to him for residence – without her having contact until she is 18: set to ‘private’ due to her ongoing proceedings – over 30,000 visits since May 2011
  2. Nigerian Gloria and Chiwar Musa – whose 5 children were taken by Haringey Council without paperwork, 6th child later and 7th child after birth in prison: > 64,000 visits since July 2011
  3. US Melissa Laird – the US Mother who was deported so that her son could be kept by Barnet Council: > 4,400 visits since September 2013
  4. The English Thompson Family – 3 children adopted by Walsall Council without papers: > 1,700 visits since October 2013
  5. Portuguese Carla and Jose Pedro – whose 5 children were taken by Lincolnshire Council without paper work: > 2,000 visits since November 2013.

Collectively, I have assisted some fifty cases on various levels and built these sites:

  1. Voluntary Public Interest AdvocacyAssociation of McKenzie Friends: > 21,000 visits since February 2012
  2. No Punishment without Crime – no Bereavement without Death – a re-publication of Ian Josephs’ Forced Adoption[4]: > 39,500 visits since April 2012
  3. A Battle for Britain’s Children – a record of ‘Battle News’ by Belinda McKenzie, Co-Founder of the Association of McKenzie Friends: > 1,500 visits since December 2012

I also published the following petitions:

  1. For the British Justice system:
  2. For the EU Petitions Committee:


1)      ‘Child snatching’ and child ‘protection’ system are the terms that Christopher Booker uses in his weekly column in The Telegraph[9]. He covered the Nigerian Musa case[10] in 14 articles[11]. Here[12] he calls the child ‘protection’ system an international scandal. 1,000 children a month are taken from their birth parents and children are screaming to be heard[13].

2)      McKenzie Friends have assisted the Musas since their first 5 children were taken in April 2010. They take the view that their case is the worst of all cases: in terms of crimes committed to cover up the initital crime – besides imprisoning both parents for seven years, refusing consular visits and imposing terribly cruel prison conditions.

3)      The need for the Association of McKenzie Friends arose from the impossibility of innocent prisoners not being able to get a fair trial, while their rights to family life were violated and they experience torture in prisons: Articles 6, 8 and 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

4)      Their appeal against conviction and sentencing was recently refused with “nothing in the grounds for appeal”, even though the Police had ‘lost’ the initial letter of evidence. The case is also worst due to falsified Police reports regarding bail appointments where supporters attended. The defendants were also not able to get their papers returned from their solicitors, despite help by supporters.

5)      The Musa case is like a ‘template’ for the Portuguese Pedro case[14]: Lincolnshire Council took 5 children, also without paper work. In both cases, the oldest child was subsequently used to make false allegations against the parents. Both parents were ‘gagged’ from complaining about their punishment without crime and the Consul has so far not had consular visits either.

6)      John Hemming is the only MP who consistently stands up for parents in Parliament. His campaigning organisation Justice for Families[15] has over 2,000 cases on file. In June 2013 he convened a meeting with 59 representatives of over 30 embassies and consulates which resulted in the Early Day Motion International Concerns about UK Law[16]. He is critical of Governmental adoption targets[17] and management.

7)      Ian Josephs is the veteran of all observers: a former local councellor in Kent with a law degree from Oxford, he has been running a language school from Monaco where he publishes Forced Adoption[18] and helps parents as a McKenzie Friend. He receives some 6 – 10 phone calls a day.

8)      Florence Bellone, a Belgian journalist won a special radio prize for her programme Great Britain: The Stolen Children[19].

9)      Canal V commissioned Angleterre, le royaume des enfants perdus[20] which was also broadcast by ARTE in German.

10)   In the UK, the mainstream media don’t report anything. Only occasionally do serious scandals appear in the press and on TV, as family court hearings are held in secret and parents are gagged with threat of imprisonment. The Association of McKenzie Friends has published Child Snatching is one of Seven Deadly Syndromes and Seven Media Cover-Ups[21].

11)   Harriet Harman MP admitted in Parliament in 2006 that 200 parents a year are imprisoned[22] in the privacy and secrecy of family courts.

III.  WHAT is UNIQUE in the UK

12)   Compared with other countries, the UK is unique[23] in the following aspects:

a)      The UK is the ONLY State in the WORLD that gags parents whose children have been taken by Social Services, i.e. threatens them with prison if they dare to complain about their pain. And these threats are enforced in the case of 200 parents a year, at least.

b)      The UK is the ONLY State in Europe (except Croatia and possibly Portugal) to permit the horror of forced adoption[24].

c)       The UK is the ONLY State in Europe to allow Punishment without Crime[25] i.e. the taking of children by Social Services from parents who have not committed any criminal offence.

d)      The UK is the ONLY State in Europe taking children for “emotional abuse” and worse still “risk of emotional abuse” – on the basis of predictions from overpaid ‘experts’ that one day parents just might harm their children. A commissioned report[26] revealed that 20% are not even qualified.

e)      The UK is the ONLY State in Europe to censor conversations between parents and children in care. Children are left wondering what they have done wrong, as parents are forbidden to explain the situation, or discuss the court case in any way. Phrases such as “I love you and I miss you” are also forbidden under the threat of contact being stopped immediately if the parents “transgress.” Children naturally begin to think their parents might not love them or want them back any more.


13)   Children, especially of foreigners, are being snatched by Local Councils in the following manner:

a)      Schools, hospitals and housing services are used as ‘honey traps’ where Social Services become aware of vulnerable parents and children.

b)      With the aid of Police, they are being physically removed – generally without any paperwork.

c)       Police Forces admitted to the falsification of criminal statistics[27] before the Justice Select Committee on 19 November 2013, especially when they relate to rape and sexual abuse cases.

d)      Subsequent allegations are fabricated to justify the removal and to keep parents busy with contact arrangements and court procedures. In this process, marriages, jobs, financial and housing situations tend to get ruined.

e)      An example and exception is the Slovak Boor family whose two sons were returned after 920 days[28] and major demonstrations outside the UK Embassy in Bratislava as well as TV and press coverage.

f)       Should parents resist any of the conditions and restrictions imposed, they risk being criminalised with the ultimate aim of deporting the parents and keeping the children. This explains the many cases listed for ‘disposal’.

14)   Social Workers invent the wildest of lies and allegations.  84 out of 100 parents questioned by Stolen Children of the UK [S.C.O.T. UK][29] said their children were taken due to “risk of future emotional harm.”

15)   Every criminal court operates on the basis of ‘innocent until proven guilty’. But family courts rely on hearsay and operate on the balance of probabilities. Comparatively few cases result in criminal proceedings such as the Musas’. The real victims are the children whose wishes should be heard in an open, fair and appropriate manner.

16)   Recent research focusing on non-UK Kids in Care[30] revealed that Croydon alone accounts for over 1,118 children of foreign nationals. But hardly any council informs the responsible embassy or consulate.

17)   In official Social Services meetings and secret family courts, the following international agreements that are in force, are routinely being ignored:

a)      the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child[31];

b)      the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations[32];

c)       and European Convention on Human Rights[33], especially relating to Articles 6, 8 and 10.

18)   At the end of a week-long protest outside Downing Street by the largest campaigning group Stolen Children of the UK[34] [S.C.O.T. UK], a petition was lodged before the House of Commons: Children Placed in Foster Care[35] – without any response so far.

19)   Statistics[36] about children in care are atrocious and McKenzie Friends have observed multi-generational abuse in ‘care’. It has every appearance of a deliberate destruction of society.

20)   In the spirit of the Munby Reforms[37], courts should consider the judgement that resulted in the Daily Mail headline UK Courts must not decide the fate of foreign children, says top judge[38], but judges treat their court rooms as their domain of rule and they tend to be in cahoots with barristers, solicitors and social services.

Based on the above experiences, the UK Delegation of petitioners and supporters is making the following requests on behalf of all parents and children who have become victimised by the UK child ‘protection’ system:

  1. To do everything in the Committee’s power
    1. to ensure that future adoptions without Parental Consent will not be allowed in the UK;
    2. to make past adoptions reversible – based on the decision of the adopted child;
    3. to enforce the Rule of international Law, as expressed in
      • the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child;
      • the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations;
      • the EU Articles of Human Rights.
  2. To make recommendations for the creation of an international Ombudsman-type tribunal that
    1. ensures children are being heard – whether in screaming or in talking age;
    2. reviews ‘care’ proceedings that are currently in process;
    3. invites parents to submit documents relating to past ‘care’ proceedings for re-assessment.
  3. To return children to their birth parents as soon as possible
    1. especially when they were taken as babies and shortly after birth;
    2. especially when their parents are foreigners;
    3. and especially when their parents are imprisoned.

The Association of McKenzie Friends will gladly assist the Petitions Committee which will hopefully organise an investigation into the institutions of the UK. John Hemming MP consistently blames the Government and management for policy such as adoption targets. Similarly, the Police have even ‘crime targets’.

About Sabine Kurjo McNeill

I'm a mathematician and system analyst formerly at CERN in Geneva and became an event organiser, software designer, independent web publisher and online promoter of Open Justice. My most significant scientific contribution is
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89 Responses to SYSTEMIC PATTERNS of Child Snatching and Forced Adoptions in the UK – a first draft for the EU Petitions Committee

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  3. Excellent detailed overview Sabine. Well done.

    You might have a more concise version ready because there is far too much for the Committee to consider, though very important.

    Perhaps remove most of the links I would suggest. But it is your decision.
    I would like to be invited if possible. Please let me know.

  4. Reblogged this on Musings of a Penpusher and commented:
    Lives in tatters; time for change – reform long overdue.

  5. when you know that a thing is unjust you should speak up!

  6. Trinity Oscar says:

    what would it take to take my story on boar?

  7. Trinity Oscar says:

    Basically you’ve chosen your stories, How about mine, simple, clear forward breach of law; if there is one

    How do you change photo and edit comments on this wordprocess

    • The Committee is meeting to find out from the UK Delegation whether the problem is personal or systematic. I took the stories that came my way in chronological order. To add yours may make you feel better, but won’t get your sons back. I am at the end of sleepless nights and exhaustion. I cannot do more than I am doing. Please do not pester me any more! I have many other commitments.

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  80. andy says:

    My son was taken 13 years ago. He was 9 at the time. I always survived with unwavering belief he would return on his 18th birthday. He did not. At this point the grief became too much & i couldnt cope so i asked the doctor for help. Being deceived i was going to get access to grief counselling i attended his surgery for 4 years constantly asking for this help until i got fed up & gained access to my med file. My doctor has not made a single entry that i even have a son. He has made 5 misdiagnosis along the way so denied me access to help. Is this normal behaviour towards a person in my position? Obviously in normal circumstances i have grounds for complaint for compensation against doctor. Will i still have these grounds in my position? My son has since returned age 22. Thanku for any help.

    • In our experience it is sooo hard to fight the system of public authorities that you really need to WANT to do it!

      I think I’d rather go on the search for your son thanks to the internet…

      • andy says:

        Thanku very much hun for taking the time to respond much appreciated. It seems as i feared the authorities are all too powerful. My son has returned i always knew he would so we can build our future together now. I was unaware of the scale of this problem its horrendous so i think im going to fight with everything i got anyway because if we roll over to this abuse we dont stand for much. Again thanku for your time xxx

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